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Equipment Military
Could you describe the military equipment and troops given to Rommel at Africa?
in terms of quality and quantity?
German troops were always 'good' even when they were 'colonial' forces sent out on the preiphery. The Africa Corp was well disciplined & brave and more so by the comradery they felt for 'their' General. In terms of equipment Rommel had too few of everything but what he had was impressive. First up the 88mm Gun an excellent weapon, one of my favorite pieces of artilery,
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/st/~cshimp/88.htm
""The German 8.8 cm (or 88mm) flak gun was originally produced in the mid 1930's as a heavy anti-aircraft gun. As is often the case in wartime, neccesity is the mother of invention. When, during the German offensive into France in 1940, and particularly so in the fighting in North Africa, Germany found its anti tank guns and tanks incapable of destroying the heavier British and French tanks, German soldiers reverted to the heaviest weapon they had, the "88." Adapted from an American gun carriage from post WW I, the 88 could depress to fire at ground targets as well as elevate to 90 degrees to engage aircraft. The gunners could traverse the gun rapidly, and with practice could put the gun in and out of action in a matter of minutes. The major drawback to the gun was that it was towed by trucks or halftracks, but with training that deficiency in mobility could be overcome.
As a testament to the effectiveness of the 88, Germany produced a whole line of tanks and tank destroyers specifically designed to mount this powerful cannon. The most famous is certainly the Tiger tank. ""
As for tanks the most numerous were adequat but unspectacular workhorses
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/st/~cshimp/pzii.htm
""The second generation on German tank was the Panzer II, also introduced in the mid-1930's. Early production was limited as improvements were continually being added. The origional tank mounted a 20mm cannon, purely innefective by 1939 and 1940. Because of a shortage of production of the heavier Pz III and Pz IV, the Pz II was used in frontline units well into 1942, even 1943. With improved suspension and chassis and armor, it was very reliable and continued to be employed as a scout vehicle in armored reconniassance units throughout the war. ""
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/st/~cshimp/pziii.htm
"""The Panzer III was the first German tank to be designed as a medium combat tank. Early Pz III tanks, with their 37mm gun, were lacking in both armor and firepower when compared to the French and British tanks encountered in 1940. More significantly, they were far outclassed by the T-34 first employed by the Soviets in early 1941.
The Pz III was armed initially with a 37mm main gun. This was not powerful enough to engage the French Char B or British Matilda tanks, for example. Further, the 30 mm (maximum) armor protection was insufficient.
The Pz III was later up-gunned to a 50mm gun, but this was still insufficient particularly after 1941 when German armored forces encountered the T-34 in increasing numbers.
One great advantage the Pz III had was its very reliable and sturdy chassis. From this chassis were produced more than 10,000 of the most successful German armored vehicles, including the StuG III assault gun, a submersible tank, and others.
Despite the weakness of the cannon and thin armor, German commanders were able to successfully employ this tank. One notable example was Erwin Rommel, who fought against the British in North Africa. ""
Less numerous but by far the best tank that Rommel had was the Panzer IV ----
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/st/~cshimp/pziv.htm
""The Panzer IV , introduced just before the invasion of France, proved a strong, reliable tank. Early versions were fitted with a short barreled 75mm cannon, which was ideal for infantry support. German armored commanders realized, however, that it would not do in tank-to-tank engagements. German strategy was based on the swift armored thrust.
Since the Panzer IV posessed the strongest chassis and largest turret of all thier tanks, it was developed further with increased armor and fitted with the new 75mm cannon. This high-velocity cannon proved extremely powerful, and was effective against nearly all Allied tanks, including the hated Russian T-34 and KV-1 tanks, until the end of the war. The new Panzer IV G and F2 proved to be extremely effective, powerful weapons. The Pz IV was the only German tank produced continuously throughout the entire war. """
This site gives you more details on the Panzer IV
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz3.htm
This shows how miniscule the amounts of equipment were...
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/stug.htm
""Three Ausf D vehicles were send to North Africa and saw service with Sonderverband z.b.V 288 - special deployment unit. ""
Here are some stats of numbers of troops Rommel had for El Alamein
"""German - Italian Forces Available
Before the Battle
Number Type
108,000 Total
Including 53,000 German Troops
600 Tanks
345 Aircraft
24 88mm Guns ""
That is all the strength I can muster at this hour..
Peace......................
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New Polish military equipment and prototypes. Part I
Why in the World do we "USA gov." keep selling our Arms and military equipment to foreign governments?
We sell our sophisticated jets and military to other Countries, and end up having to fight them , with them using our own Arms against us!
Can you name one country we have fought that has used weapons we sold them against us?
There are several good reasons for us to sell military hardware to our allies:
Selling the equipment gives them a more capable military which means that a potential enemy is less likely to attack them. (We can avoid potential wars this way.)
Selling to foreign countries reduces the price we have to pay for the same hardware. (Economies of scale.)
We can use a potential sale of military hardware as a diplomatic incentive. (Improve your human-rights issues and we will sell you our planes.)
If we sold them the equipment then we control the supply of spare parts. Thus we have some say as to how that equipment is used. (For example if a nation wants to use an aircraft we sold them to do something we disapprove of, all we have to do is ban the sale of parts - and the aircraft will not be able to fly.)
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